honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2012 3:01:34 AM
of course, when many folks move to NG, the price goes up rapidly.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 6:09:08 AM
other than HC routes which are run often by private vehicles, USPS has mostly CNG vehicles now.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 8:39:48 PM
PA is headed in the right direction, just too slowly!
puinsai808...almost all of the Postal delivery vehicles are now NG fueled here, so is UPS.
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FJCruiserCA

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California
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 11:59:13 AM
Go Nat Gas !
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qwerty17

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 8:47:47 AM
keep pushing. bring them on.
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 12:32:39 AM
Bi-fuel vehicles where the driver can choose to use CNG or gasoline makes sense for the typical family. 100% CNG vehicles makes no sense for the typical family since the GNC refuelling infrastructure is so limited if it exist at all in almost all city and rural areas currently nationwide.
100% CNG does make sense for local delivery, busses, taxis, large city utility vehicles, city owned vehicles, fleet operators, etcetara where the vehicle is never or very rarely expected to leave the local area and the entity that owns the 100% CNG vehicles also owns or shares ownership of a CNG refuelling facility.
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OGW

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London
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:51:29 PM
CNG is not the fuel of the future but was a fuel of the past as less vehicles are powered by it now as it is not great for use in vehicles. We used to have 15 CNG stations in our city 15 years ago but only one remains as people dumped their CNG vehicles at the autowreckers because they suck on the road!
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boatfloyd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:23:13 PM
We shall see.
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souly

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:22:52 PM
thanks for the post
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Bigwaynef

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:21:05 PM
I already have enuff Natural gas...
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:20:07 PM
ok
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ican2step

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:18:28 PM
Go For It.
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:18:23 PM
Infrastructure is key to anything.
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:18:06 PM
Good.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:15:11 PM
Environmentalists don't have a problem with natural gas if it's drilled responsibly. Unlike oil, natural gas doesn't spill.
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KrsnaDragon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:15:05 PM
This is good news.
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:14:47 PM
The future is hydrogen fuel cells.
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nurdco

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:13:57 PM
ONLY one Mfg and one state Plan for Infrastructure...
esentially NOTHING
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:13:33 PM
And to those convinced that this will cause your heating bill to go up, why did you get a natural gas furnace in the first place? Why didn't you just use fuel oil or propane or a wood-burning stove to heat your house?
If you were enjoying lower heating costs all these years, why did you think you could keep this secret all to yourselves?
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HailstormCA

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:12:21 PM
CNG will someday face the same problems as gasoline, i.e. environmentalist.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:11:01 PM
We shall see...
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:10:37 PM
To those griping that using CNG will just cause the price of CNG to skyrocket, by your own logic then, won't increased use of CNG also result in a drop in gas prices since fewer cars will be fueled by gas?
If you think CNG is a waste, then just keep driving gas. We'll all find out who's smarter in the end.
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rawdog1313

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:09:59 PM
Energy Independence.......
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hank1326

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:08:49 PM
No more government freebies please!!
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:06:04 PM
Crooks!
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:05:53 PM
Crooked oil industry. They are cutting down production to drive prices up.
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mcmonsta

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:05:46 PM
an alternative if they can work out distribution
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:05:10 PM
No government subsidies please.
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1fulltank

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:05:08 PM
Old material.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 9:04:50 PM
and then we wont be able to afford to heat our homes.
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suicyco16

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:58:01 PM
I agree John
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bginsj

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:56:32 PM
big mistake
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:54:58 PM
I still believe that this is a mistake. It will substantially increase demand for natural gas; which in turn will drive up the cost of natural gas delivered to homes and to power plants. Our home gas bills and electricity prices will skyrocket. If there is such an abundance of natural gas bills should be dropping like a rock.
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vibdata

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:54:28 PM
Why? So BIG GAS can then rip you off as well as BIG OIL? They're the same greedy people anyway.
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photobuddy

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Washington
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:53:18 PM
Keep the cars coming off the line. Lets start using fuel from here.
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TopGunn

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:52:27 PM
Sounds good - upgrade the infrastructure.
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Chris46

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:50:27 PM
Get-er-done!
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Vitobug

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El Paso
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:48:36 PM
ok
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69Bonne

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Gary
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:48:34 PM
Good idea but needs a lot of work yet.
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PizzaMon

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:45:11 PM
Cheaper than gasoline now but just wait.
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TJC47

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:45:02 PM
ok!
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THX138

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:43:21 PM
K
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wagtrainer

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:43:18 PM
please don't let the government get involved...best way to ruin any good idea
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farn1958

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:37:09 PM
ok
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dulberg

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:35:57 PM
k
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Taurus1

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:34:58 PM
Natural gas is a fossil fuel too.
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Jeeputtputt

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:34:12 PM
did not work years ago
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:31:19 PM
blwong is dreaming Obama wants nothing to do with carbon doesn't matter Oceans rising blah blah blah Hope he enjoys his volt he promised to buy when he leaves office
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clermont40miles

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:30:20 PM
Make cars that run on both gasoline and CNG. Have two tanks and a switchover. This is more practical that switching between gas and diesel.
That way you can use either fuel. Flex. Zero ethanol.
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CCLighthouse

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:30:10 PM
I believe some big delivery companies are using it in their vehicles and I've not heard anything negative about its performance. One our colleges has had the use of a gas powered vehicle also and the instructors like it. We'll see... : )
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